Turning point for Linuxvillage and it's forum?

[melodie]

Hello!

It's ok and very natural to have some time busy elsewere, right?

Hope you are fine and everything went as you wished. About the plugin, leave it as is, there is nothing to worry about it. I just wondered why we can't get some "new posts" as on other forum types.

Here is what I am planning to add, anyway: http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=3782
and perhaps, just for a complement to this one:
http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=3826

but I am afraid it could pull too much resources on the server. And at last I have also had a glance at this one which might be nice, not sure: http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=1338
perhaps in the future, if more people not used to this type of forums come it would be nice to have a sandbox area… never saw one myself, but why not if there would be the need for it.

Let me know what you think? And btw, have you seen the last Bento ISO mini which came out? (Just finished a new one, even lighter and smaller which I will need to test now).

[kjdixo]

Hi Melodie

Re : Turning point for Linuxvillage and it's forum?
« Réponse #61 le: 25 novembre 2015 à 14:17:02 »

And one detail we talked about several days ago, to not be forgotten : when users are logged out, I would like them to be able to see if there are new messages. While I'm at it, I don't understand how the green + of the message bubbles work : is it supposed to show "new message" or to show "no new message" ? It's unclear to me. How do we know which is what? Is there a tootip for it?

My last post was merely suggesting an easy way to affect the speech bubble icons, by somehow tapping into the 24-48-72 hour plugin data.
I reasoned that if the bubble icons could be made to display the states of the 24-48-72 hour plugin data then it would be very easy because the work is already done.
The 'tapping in' would have to be done 'passively' without affecting the plugin (no changes to the plugin).

You can try the plugins you suggested and they might be exactly what you want. Good luck (also tell me if you want me to test them).
If it was my forum I would try to reduce the number of plugins and keep things simple.
Even though the extra plugins are easy to install, they look complicated to me and it is just more 'code bloat' and more to have to deal with.

. . . have you seen the last Bento ISO mini which came out? (Just finished a new one, even lighter and smaller which I will need to test now).

I tried to find it but was not sure which one it is.
Is it here: http://phillw.net/isos/bento-ubuntu-remix/
Could you post me a link to it today or early monday please?
A direct link to "the last Bento ISO mini which came out".
I am on holiday running on mobile sim card data and have to use up 3GB before monday 14th 24:00 midnight. "Use it or lose it".
So it is an ideal time to download distros.
However I won't be able to burn them to disc until after christmas as I did not bring my usb cd drives with me.
Also . . . I always use a "sacrificial computer" to do testing on, I did not bring one on holiday with me, sorry.
I did not bring any laptops or netbooks on holiday.
I brought along an old motherboard (powered from a mini itx sw mode psu) and I am using a TV for my computer screen (expanded area using xrandr).
I also brought my full size illuminated keyboard, it is great, just like being at home.

[melodie]

Hello,

Here is the very last one, 341MB, works on machines having a 64bits processor.
http://phillw.net/isos/bento-ubuntu-remix/bento-sushi-14.04.3-5-x86_64.iso
http://phillw.net/isos/bento-ubuntu-remix/bento-sushi-14.04.3-5-x86_64.iso.md5sum

I also have an illuminated keyboard. (but not old motherboard with whatever it is you have). And you don't need to burn CD's to test, you can do that with a usb stick (there are many ways to setup a bootable stick, one which is quite nice is the one with grub2 where you can have the full ISOs booted, this way: http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/1846 or following this tutorial:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot

It's also possible to boot from ISO (poor man install method), with the ISO located in the / of a primary partition, and using hdmedia files (provided on the servers at Ubuntu, or at Debian if you want to do that with a Debian iso).

[kjdixo]

Thanks for the links to the 64bit iso.
I have always installed 32bit in the past.
The point I was making is that whilst away from home with only a single computer (bare board with wires, fans and components exposed)  and no backup computer, I am not going to risk testing unknown operating systems.
I will do any testing in January on a spare 'sacrificial' computer.
I do not want to risk breaking the only computer I have access to.
As for the usb boot methods (sd card etc), yes I have done all that before, (raspberry pi and tiny core linux) and also with slitaz on a standard computer.
Also I have always used grub2, but not to boot to an iso image . . . so I might look at that. Thanks for the link.
My current OS is puppy linux tahr 6.05 (ubuntu repo compatible), this particular puppy I have found to be nice and quick and reliable.
Whenever I decide to go 'distro hopping' I always eventually return to puppy linux.
For other people who are more familiar with windows os, I try to set them up with a version of Linux mint (cinnamon).
Though I might set them up with a version of Bento if my testing of it goes well in January.
Tell me when you would like to do any more changes to the Linux Village Forum.
I will leave the tabs-fun themed "Forum Test" on my website until after you have completed the necessary changes to your Linux Village Forum.
In addition to changes in the theme's stylesheet style.css. There are also changes in Sources/subs.php (to do with the orange tabs) and also in tabs-fun/index.template.php (to do with the "hello guest" on "one line" fix) and in tabs-fun/languages/ThemeStrings.english.php. If you do a search in a text editor for kjdixo you should find the changes. I have also changed some icons graphically (speech bubbles and some of the admin icons were white on a light background, so I made them green), whilst I have left their filenames unchanged . . . it is an easy method to change the look without code changes.
If you implement the basic changes then I can look at your Forum and tell you the extra tweaks you need to do.
Good Luck.

[kjdixo]

Here is the very last one, 341MB, works on machines having a 64bits processor.
http://phillw.net/isos/bento-ubuntu-remix/bento-sushi-14.04.3-5-x86_64.iso
http://phillw.net/isos/bento-ubuntu-remix/bento-sushi-14.04.3-5-x86_64.iso.md5sum

I downloaded from your link. Thank you.

[melodie]

I downloaded from your link. Thank you.

Hello,

I have done one more, a bit smaller and lighter, it's now 339M, and in Virtualbox it used 91 to 93Mb RAM when idle. Getting under the 100Mb RAM used with an Ubuntu remix was kind of a challenge.

http://phillw.net/isos/bento-ubuntu-remix/bento-sushi-14.04.3-6-x86_64.iso
http://phillw.net/isos/bento-ubuntu-remix/bento-sushi-14.04.3-6-x86_64.iso.md5sum

You'll find the full list:
http://phillw.net/isos/bento-ubuntu-remix/

if your screen allows you to display the page, of course.

I ask information about the plugin http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=3782 on the #smf IRC chan, because I am not sure it does what I am looking for. I'll tell you about it once I get the info. Then, I can install the new theme whenever you think it's ready. And yes, if it's simple for you to pipe the 24/48/72 plugin to make the "new posts icon" reflect it, please do it! :-)

Enjoy your vacation! Where on/in the world are you? (If not on another planet… :p )

PS: for the people familiar with Windows OS, I suggest the full fledged Bento, which I have installed for many people now (IRL). The small version is for people who want to customize to the maximum extend possible.
Here is the latest full fledged, updated on December 8th:
i386 672M:
bento-openbox-14.04.3-i386.iso
bento-openbox-14.04.3-i386.iso.md5sum

x86_64 689M:
bento-openbox-14.04.3-x86_64.iso
bento-openbox-14.04.3-x86_64.iso.md5sum

PS2: Bento is interesting because it is very light, however it does not yet have what's needed to boot to UEFI, so when I have an install to do on a UEFI capable machine I install Xubuntu. I am not a great fan of Cinnamon or Gnome3, I would probably like Mate better… what is the most important is that the user you install for can get your help, so you need to know your desktop very well…

[kjdixo]

Thank you.
I downloaded all of those isos (I am using up my vodafone 4GB before midnight tonight), then i will have to go out early tomorrow and buy another 4GB for 7 days (6.5 days in reality) for 12euro50cents.

I am not a great fan of Cinnamon or Gnome3, I would probably like Mate better

Yes I agree with that, I am not a fan of cinnamon/gnome3 either (hate it), I only use it for other people.
I am a fan of openbox and that is what I use in puppy linux.
I am not a fan of ROX file manager although it does have its uses, I always uninstall that from puppy and install XFE file manager.
Puppy linux tends to integrate a lot of puppy programs with ROX, so I had to hack each program's code to replace any instances of the word ROX with the word XFE (pmount for example). I got it all working how I want.
You might remember that I described my minimal desktop setup with multiple right click menus to you (a year or two ago).

Enjoy your vacation!

Portugal - Algarve
I am not a beach lover though.
Cycling a lot (in the sunshine) and computers is more my idea of fun.
I am currently working on improving this:
http://pt.kdworld7.net/
Some of it is incorrect - I know it is -  I am trying to learn Portuguese and design this carry-anywhere web page for my samsung galaxy tablet.
I am currently trying to add new verbs every day.
Thanks again for the isos, I will install them soon after christmas.

[kjdixo]

Added this today:
Guests can now see the most recent posts.



Recent posts were enabled by changing a setting in the admin current theme menu,
currently I am displaying 100 recent posts . . . below the board categories at the bottom of the index page.

    Forum test >
    Administration Center >
    Themes and Layout >
    Manage and Install

Configuration
Current Theme

Number of recent posts to display on board index:
To disable the recent posts bar set this value to zero.

It was 0 and I changed it to 100.
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Then I made the upshrink icon more visible (lime green) in style.css.

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img[id='upshrink_ic']{cursor:pointer;width:0px;height:0px;border-left:20px solid #0f0;border-top:10px solid transparent;border-bottom:10px solid transparent}

I am wondering whether to use the upshrink icon to toggle the recent posts / board categories (display:inline / display:none) or to swap them (top to bottom / bottom to top) ... reverse the divs display order ... when the icon is clicked, so that you can have the information section (with recent posts) at the top or bottom..

My idea to use data from the 24-48-72 plugin
I spent a while looking at the 24-48-72 hour plugin modifications and the default smf/Sources/Recent.php
and I have now decided to forget that method, there is a lot of PHP, it would probably be easy to do, but I have now found an easier way.
It is better to do the simple fix I showed above (using the admin settings) and maybe some simple css and javascript to show / hide the information (recent posts).
I think the recent posts list is quite nice to look at and most importantly it is functional and compact.
What do you think Melodie?

[melodie]

What do you think Melodie?

I agree, it looks like it will be the best way. Let's try it?

[melodie]

kjdixo! I miss you, where have you gone?   

[kjdixo]

Happy 2016 Melodie and friends.
I am still here.
Sorry for not posting anything recently.
Let me know when you would like to change the forum style.
Now a month has gone by, it would be best if I spend a day or two looking at what I did in December.
I can then post a summary of what to do.
A list of tried and tested instructions, so that we can be 100% sure that there won't be problems.

I tried out your Bento distro and it looked very polished and stable.
Another ubuntu-mini remix you linked to, wanted me to connect to the internet during installation, so I gave it a miss.
My current distro is puppy.
I look here at the Linux Village Forum every few days, so if you post a comment I will respond (sorry for not responding to "I agree, it looks like it will be the best way. Let's try it?").
I decided to take a break from it as we had reached a stable point in the development.
My M$ outlook webmail flagged your happy new year email as possibly fraudulent, so to be safe I deleted it.
I was going to wish you happy new year on your forum thread, later today, anyway here I have done it.
Happy New Year.

[melodie]

Hi Kjdixo!

I am happy to see you are well, and not missing because of some trouble of some kind. Happy New Year to you too!

Yes, I am looking forward to install your beautiful skin on this one forum. I have even taken the background to place it on the main site! http://linuxvillage.org

There is just one little thingy which I would want you to change, but it's not very much in a hurry. I'll tell you when you will have taken the time to check what you did in December.

Humm about webmail, you might want to follow the progress on that one project: https://caliopen.org/

Best regards,
Mélodie

[kjdixo]

Hi Melodie
It is nice to know I am appreciated . . . and missed when I disappear.
I will look at setting up the new tabs-fun style and I will post details here in the next few days.
I am tired this morning as I was online until 2am last night.
The Caliopen site looks interesting, thank you.
Best Regards
Kevin

[melodie]

Yes, have some rest. We all need some at times, don't we?

I just looked inside what change I'd like to ask from you. Here it is, with a picture, and the related code:

(Clic for full size)

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.user_info {
  color: #41A700;
  font-family: Dejavu Sans;
}
.user_info a {
  color: #025797;
  font-family: Dejavu Sans;
    font-weight: bold;
  font-variant: small-caps;
}

About the CSS, beware about the "font-type" which was not right, and the name of the font family. I took information from the two pages here after:
http://www.w3schools.com/CSS/css_font.asp

http://www.cssfontstack.com/Dejavu-Sans

and used Stylish to do the tests against the test forum. I hope you like this new idea for the colors in the Welcome message?

[kjdixo]

Yes it looks really nice with the new colours.
It is strange that you had some css errors as I tested the xhtml and the css using the W3C embedded links.
http://www.kdworld7.net/smf/index.php validates using the XHTML http://validator.w3.org/check/referer link at the bottom of the my example forumpage. http://www.kdworld7.net/smf/index.php

Then on the XHTML validation page there is an official W3C link named:

Validating CSS Style Sheets

If you use CSS in your document, you can check it using the W3C CSS Validation Service."
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/

where http://www.kdworld7.net/smf/index.php validates correctly as css3.

Anyway you can put in whatever code you wish.
I will look at it in more detail another day.
It looks good.
I definitely do prefer the blue/green combination, it is much better than using orange I think.