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Bento RC (almost finale) ready to get - Who wants to test?
melodie:
Hello,
Since Saucy was out, and while it is a transitional version towards the next LTS, Bento (Ubuntu Remix) is still a 12.04.3 version and is now really at the end of it's journey!
Here is a full presentation, with the links to the ISO images and screen shots arranged in a gallery, and the list of the applications default provided. I needs to be tested thoroughly, including but not only, the video, the access to the content of your cameras, the management of your pictures, activate some of the ppa provided as additional sources, from there install one of the latest Libreoffice…
Please discover it all here! →
In case some wonder about the version with the Fake-PAE installed, here is what it allows doing:
--- Code: ---[ubuntu@ubuntu:~]$ uname -a
Linux ubuntu 3.8.0-33-generic #48~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Oct 24 16:31:16 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[ubuntu@ubuntu:~]$ ls -lh /isodevice
total 2.0G
-rw-rw-r-- 2 1000 1000 676M Nov 13 09:05 bento-ubuntu-remix-RC-linux-3.8-fake-pae-i386-2012.04.3.iso
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4.0K May 2 2013 boot
drwx------ 2 root root 16K May 2 2013 lost+found
-rw------- 1 root root 687M May 4 2013 lubuntu.iso
-rw-rw-r-- 2 1000 1000 676M Nov 13 09:05 second.iso
[ubuntu@ubuntu:~]$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 13
model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz
stepping : 6
microcode : 0x18
cpu MHz : 1700.000
cache size : 2048 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 2
wp : yes
flags : pae fpu vme de pse tsc msr mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss tm pbe bts est tm2
bogomips : 3396.98
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 36 bits physical, 32 bits virtual # 36 bits physical --> PAE capable
power management:
[ubuntu@ubuntu:~]$
--- Fin du code ---
As some of you might know, after the 3.2.0 series, in Ubuntu there aren't anymore kernels which don't have the PAE flag, which means that certain types of machines are unable to boot with the Ubuntu distributions or remixes provided with, for example, a 3.8.0 as above.
And among these machines some are very decent P4 which would otherwise work very well and do have pae capability : but for some technical reason (I don't know what they are) they can't be booted with the actual Ubuntu syslinux which induces the /proc/cpuinfo to not return a "cpu flag here!" message.
This fake-pae solves the issue at least for those machines: therefore the above output shows clearly that in this case, a "3.8.0-33-generic" (which is *with* PAE in the kernel configuration) does boot and the cpuinfo does show the pae in the list of flags provided by the CPU. If you wonder about machines *really* not providing a pae feature in their CPU, my bet is that fake-pae won't invent it and the system will not boot.
DOWNLOAD LINKS
Since Nazral, who owned tyruiop.eu moved abroad and closed his server, we have moved the files to two new places, one provided by the crunchbang-fr.org owner and his tech assistant Goodbox, and the other provided by phillw, who has been a long time Lubuntu helper, and who is still involved, though less lately for he needs some time for himself.
Thanks to all them three!
Get our ISOS here:
http://linuxvillage.org/Downloads/ISOS/
http://phillw.net/isos/bento-ubuntu-remix/
Jeff:
Hi mélodie,
Bento RC up and running in virtualbox. I've not had any luck in getting the non PAE version and the fake PAE version running on my old Pentium boxes. I'll try a couple of other options tomorrow evening and get back to you.
Jeff
Jeff:
Hi mélodie,
Here's an update for you.
Unable to get Bento RC, non PAE version, up and running on Pentium IV machines. Live CD works on both, however, after installing to the hard drive, both machines crash on boot up.
Bento RC Live CD, PAE version, works on Intel Core 2 Duo, including wireless network. However, after installing to the hard drive the wireless network is not accessible. Still looking into why that happens.
Jeff
Jeff:
Hi mélodie,
I finally got one of the old Pentium IV's, with your non PAE version, up and running. It's a Dell Inspiron 8600 from 2004. I needed to set a delay upon booting. Setting the Grub screen to display for 5 seconds was enough for everything to catch up and start working. I'll get back to you, once I've done further testing.
Have a great day,
Jeff
melodie:
Hello Jeff !
You've been doing some good testing!
I would need a few more details, such as for each P4 machine the exact specs, versions tested and exactly what you see, when you boot to CD, and once it is installed.
Also if you had to setup 5 seconds for the Grub screen, does it mean the machines have very low ram specs?
I am astonished to read the PAE versions work better for you than the non PAE, which would mean I need to consider continuing to provide both? Is it the 3.8 version? Why the wireless is not seen anymore: not sure, however it might be something related to some packages automatically removed after install.
In the ISO there are some filesystem.manifest files, I'll do a diff and see what is removed. (Again, is it the version with the 3.8 kernel which you have tried?)
Some news! Since I posted this message, a new contribution has been done by sudodu, (Nio) a great contributor to the Lubuntu team. He has helped me with some testing, helped with a zram-config bug solved since:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1246664
and for which the linux kernel 3.2.0 (the generic is the one I am interested in) just arrived in the current repositories.
The other news is Nio put up a "grub-n-iso" from Bento, which is a tweak they have figured out among a few Lubuntu contributors, in order to allow some Pentium M and Celeron M machines (with P4 cpu) to boot, when the CPU has pae capability but is not seen by the system and shown in the cpuinfo flags.
the version I provided with fake-pae will help when the system is already installed, but when it is not yet installed it needs Grub to be there to boot it, instead of syslinux. This is where his "grub-n-iso" comes in the scene. One question regarding the issues you met, are the machines you are having belonging to this category?
I don't have any machine falling into that category, so I could not test it. But here is a start for detailed explanation: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Bento-fake-PAE
All necessary links are there, courtesy to Nio and phillw, and the image done by Nio is also available here:
http://phillw.net/isos/bento-ubuntu-remix/
bento-ubuntu-remix-RC-linux-3.8-fake-pae-i386-2012.04.3.grub-n-iso.img.gz 700M
bento-ubuntu-remix-RC-linux-3.8-fake-pae-i386-2012.04.3.grub-n-iso.md5sum
Let's see how it goes? :)
Have a good day too!
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