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melodie:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerigo_Vespucci
Amerigo Vespucci discovered what has been named America, then after the people there didn't like what the British crown requested from them they organized a tea party. The Boston tea party…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party
There is also a very interesting story related to the Irish immigrants in the late 18xx's. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangs_of_New_York
--- Citer ---The film begins in 1846 but quickly jumps to 1862. The two principal issues of the era in New York were Irish immigration to the city and the Federal government's execution of the ongoing Civil War. The story follows Bill "the Butcher" Cutting (Daniel Day-Lewis) in his roles as crime boss and political kingmaker under the helm of "Boss" Tweed (Jim Broadbent). The film culminates in a violent confrontation between Cutting and his mob with the protagonist Amsterdam Vallon (Leonardo DiCaprio) and his allies, which coincides with the New York Draft Riots of 1863.
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Quite a complex story. Many immigrants where moving from the Old World to start a new life in a New World, and what world!
Still presented nowadays as the "country of the second chance", defined by others as the country of the 1000 pounders. The place where there are the more students owing the more money for having taken mortgage to pay their studies, the first country where the pollution began to be so hight that people in some states could not use the water from the tap any more because it was flowing dark. And so much more.
patrick013:
@Melodie
Wait a minute !
Amerigo drew the map...Christopher "discovered" the place.
Boston Tea Party ? Hmmm..... Read the whole Declaration
of Independence please.
Student mortgages ? Best bet is to get a cheapo 2 yr. degree from
a local community college and go to night school sometimes at your
employers reimbursement for your full 4 yr. degree. State Universities
will drive anyone bankrupt and their employment rates aren't that high
either. Community colleges (2 yr.) can be taught too hard but are generally
more practical and employment related, if any jobs are available.
Pollution ? Many factories on Lake Michigan closed due to that and the
water still is hard but in the best in the US. Always a concern on an average
lake which isn't that good in the first place, but many restaurants. I know
towns that don't have restaurants because their available water is just too hard.
Irish in New York, never been there, never seen them, all understand.
A few thoughts then.
djohnston:
--- Citation de: mélodie le 07 août 2013 à 22:15:48 ---Amerigo Vespucci discovered what has been named America, then after the people there didn't like what the British crown requested from them they organized a tea party. The Boston tea party…
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That's quite a jump. Vespucci's first voyage was in 1499, and the Boston Tea Party happened some 270 years later, in 1773. However, Vespucci didn't "discover" America, although the three western continents are named after Amerigo. Vespucci's first American voyage was 5 years after Christopher Columbus landed in the West Indies, probably on the island of San Salvador, in the Bahamas.
If you want to get really technical, north America was probably "discovered" by the Norse Viking Leif Ericsson circa 1000 AD. Leif's journals describe the sea grapes that grow wild along the coast of what is now Newfoundland.
One of the enduring mysteries about the "discovery" of the Americas is the story of the Piri Reis map. Piri Reis was a Turkish admiral and cartographer. There are some indications that Columbus carried with him a map drawn by the Turkish admiral. In any case, a group of historians discovered a surviving map in 1923. The controversy over the discovered map is this:
--- Citer ---The Piri Reis map shows the western coast of Africa, the eastern coast of South America, and the northern coast of Antarctica. The northern coastline of Antarctica is perfectly detailed. The most puzzling however is not so much how Piri Reis managed to draw such an accurate map of the Antarctic region 300 years before it was discovered, but that the map shows the coastline under the ice. Geological evidence confirms that the latest date Queen Maud Land could have been charted in an ice-free state is 4000 BC.
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melodie:
I like very much the way you present history. I have also read about a viking who discovered the American continent several centuries before Christopher Columbus. (In French we name him Christophe Colomb).
patrick013:
--- Citation de: mélodie le 08 août 2013 à 00:22:28 ---I like very much the way you present history. I have also read about a viking who discovered the American continent several centuries before Christopher Columbus. (In French we name him Christophe Colomb).
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My revelations are straight from American History taught right
here in Chicago, IL, USA
Leif Erikson, tho recorded, explored northernmost regions of
North America only, resulted in no sustained settlements, so the
main discovery and start of modern history was attriibuted
to Christopher Columbus, who I recollect was an Italian sailor
working with Spanish financing out of the Spanish port of Palos, Spain.
wikis aren't always 100% to me it seems.
THX
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