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Titre: Razor QT
Posté par: konaexpress le 28 février 2013 à 17:49:23
Wondering if anyone has played with the RazorQT desktop yet. Last night I was letting off some steam and loaded it on top of Lubuntu as it likes to run on Openbox.

I am not a big KDE fan but this is a really nice DE I think. This could make for a fun distro. I think LXDE might be a bit faster and not as new but it is still a quick little guy.

Any ideas?
Titre: Re : Razor QT
Posté par: melodie le 28 février 2013 à 20:22:19
Any ideas?

More than one! What do you have in mind ?

Titre: Re : Razor QT
Posté par: konaexpress le 28 février 2013 à 20:35:40
Just playing with an idea. Because of the name "Razor" and wanting to load in the "Ninja IDE" for Python QT programming I was thinking about....



(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8112/8516870082_7d3a2ac7fd_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mynetbookos/8516870082/)
Katana-logo (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mynetbookos/8516870082/#) by The Kona Express (http://www.flickr.com/people/mynetbookos/), on Flickr


This is just me blowing off steam and doing some artwork. Sometimes it is just hard for me to wrap my mind around the guts of Linux.
Titre: Re : Razor QT
Posté par: konaexpress le 28 février 2013 à 23:50:32
Wow, tried to strip out LXDE and borked the system so that it will not boot LOL. O'well.........

I have always been better at art then at making a OS. (big sigh)  You guys make your OS's and I will continue to do the artwork for them.....
Titre: Re : Re : Razor QT
Posté par: melodie le 01 mars 2013 à 00:17:46
Wow, tried to strip out LXDE and borked the system so that it will not boot LOL. O'well.........

That happens... never know when the system (being stripped) is at the breaking point.  ::)

Citer
I have always been better at art then at making a OS. (big sigh)  You guys make your OS's and I will continue to do the artwork for them.....

I can't talk for everyone on the forum, so I'll talk just for me: I am so bad with artwork that I will be glad if you do some for the spins I want to share! And your artwork is really beautiful, and more and more interesting.


Titre: Re : Re : Re : Razor QT
Posté par: djohnston le 01 mars 2013 à 00:23:21
I am so bad with artwork that I will be glad if you do some for the spins I want to share! And your artwork is really beautiful, and more and more interesting.

That goes for me, too.
Titre: Re : Re : Razor QT
Posté par: patrick013 le 01 mars 2013 à 01:54:35
I have always been better at art then at making a OS. (big sigh)  You guys make your OS's and I will continue to do the artwork for them.....

Are you good at GTK themes ?    I have some that are excellent but need
one or two adjustments.   Can't find the "big book" where I could do so.

regards,

patrick
Titre: Re : Razor QT
Posté par: konaexpress le 01 mars 2013 à 02:25:22
I don't mean to sound stupid but what is a GTK theme? If you can point me at something I can see, I might be able to do something.
Titre: Re : Re : Razor QT
Posté par: patrick013 le 01 mars 2013 à 02:54:41
I don't mean to sound stupid but what is a GTK theme? If you can point me at something I can see, I might be able to do something.

The themes you select with LXAppearance that affect the desktop.

Some are simple just to change the colors, but, others mix up the parameters
with internal themes that effect the main theme etc. and I can't follow the
theme logic then as well.

OK ?

patrick
Titre: Re : Razor QT
Posté par: konaexpress le 01 mars 2013 à 03:37:49
So like Crux and Mist and all the other themes that affect the borders around the windows? Never played with them before, I,will see if I can track down a theme guid or something. Is there a file that can be unzipped so I can see the graphics files?
Titre: Re : Re : Re : Razor QT
Posté par: konaexpress le 01 mars 2013 à 03:46:05
That happens... never know when the system (being stripped) is at the breaking point.  ::)

I guess I could just let it be able to dual login LXDE and Razor QT sense they both run on Opnbox. I can just change all the graphics and make Razor the primary DE and uninstall as many apps as I can.
Titre: Re : Re : Razor QT
Posté par: patrick013 le 01 mars 2013 à 04:34:59
So like Crux and Mist and all the other themes that affect the borders around the windows? Never played with them before, I,will see if I can track down a theme guid or something. Is there a file that can be unzipped so I can see the graphics files?

Yes, like Crux in /usr/share/themes/crux

There's a theme called concrete which is an excellent theme, but it
is badly written in some respects.    It wrecks a few important places
in my Pan usenet program.   Another is Sea2Sky, it wrecks  that program
also a little bit, but being able to make a change would make it quite good.

If I had an 800 page book on gtk themes I'd fix it myself.    But, can't
find one, maybe a college bookstore would have one.

Perhaps a new topic-thread for this   kona    ?

Hate to trash some of these themes when a couple adjustments by
someone could make a greater effort a success, you know.

Each one defines gtk areas different, buttons, borders, notebooks,
etc. and without the reference book I just get lost trying to read thru
all the spaghetti in there.   Images used for backgrounds and so forth.
Theme id's that override other id's, like html or css style sheets do.

You'd have to be able to do a gtk theme like crux from scratch and change
definitions, images used, duplicate definitions and all of that.

Crux is actually one of the easiest to modify.   I use it with and without
the crux-engine and can modify colors within  so it works quite well then.
Has enough contrast either way to look good.    But if I wanted a certain
button or key to colorize differently,  oh well, no reference book.

Perhaps create a LinuxVillage theme even, like crux.

Want a new topic-thread ?   Probably.

regards,

patrick
Titre: Re : Re : Razor QT
Posté par: djohnston le 01 mars 2013 à 07:44:44
Just playing with an idea. Because of the name "Razor" and wanting to load in the "Ninja IDE" for Python QT programming I was thinking about....

Katana-logo (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mynetbookos/8516870082/#) by The Kona Express (http://www.flickr.com/people/mynetbookos/), on Flickr
John,

I put together a Debian testing respin with RazorQt as the desktop and Openbox as the window manager, No other desktops are installed. It's starting to shape up. Can you do some "extra" work on the Katana image? I stripped out the dark line at the left edge of the graphic. Saved that as a 1024x768 graphic and am using it as the wallpaper. Debian wallpapers come in several sizes. Some are autoloaded at boot time depending on video screen size. Here's the Debian list:

PNG
1024x768
1280x800
1280x1024
1366x768
1600x1200
1920x1080
1920x1200

SVG
1280x1024
1600x1200
1920x1080
1920x1200

I can resize what I already have, but due to the aspect ratio changing, some don't look right. I already have 1024x768, which will also cover 1600x1200 (4:3). Would you mind doing the others, based on your Katana graphic? (I just need the PNG images.)

Here's what I have so far.

RazorQt menu

(http://s19.postimage.org/xgd34jqu7/katana01.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/xgd34jqu7/)

Openbox menu

(http://s19.postimage.org/svqwpm74v/katana02.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/svqwpm74v/)

RazorQt version 0.5.1

(http://s19.postimage.org/nllxybmvz/katana03.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/nllxybmvz/)

Titre: Re : Razor QT
Posté par: konaexpress le 01 mars 2013 à 15:42:27
O'  I know you didn't do that, that was a screen grab, not an export! LOL

Let me make a new export for you to use, give me an hour or so so I can get some coffee in me..LOL

Look forward to seeing what you have.
Titre: Re : Razor QT
Posté par: konaexpress le 01 mars 2013 à 18:20:43
Here is a zip file in my Dropbox with all the sizes you asked for.  It has PNG and the SVG files in it so that you will have a hard copy of the images to work/use when you need them.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/41965771/Katana/Katana-Wallpapers.zip


EDIT: I also made the logo on the wallpapers a bit smaller so that it would not be so overwhelming to look at. I put them in a zip file because Flikr dumbs down the image a bit.
Titre: Re : Razor QT
Posté par: melodie le 01 mars 2013 à 19:09:50
Hi,

GTK stands for "Gnome Tool Kit" and it brings colors and shape to the parts between the handle and the content of the window itself.

We had "gtk", then "gtk2" and we are starting to have GTK3 themes. You can have a look here:
gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=15

http://gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=100 (http://gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=100)

http://gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=167 (http://gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=167)

a gtk* theme needs : the theme, and the engine for which it has been built.

Titre: Re : Re : Razor QT
Posté par: djohnston le 01 mars 2013 à 22:24:25
Here is a zip file in my Dropbox with all the sizes you asked for.  It has PNG and the SVG files in it so that you will have a hard copy of the images to work/use when you need them.

Thanks. Should have the remaster finished tonight.
Titre: Re : Razor QT
Posté par: melodie le 01 mars 2013 à 23:03:48
Oh ho !

/me being mirroring all LV spins, now!
Titre: Re : Re : Razor QT
Posté par: konaexpress le 01 mars 2013 à 23:50:19
Oh ho !

/me being mirroring all LV spins, now!

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Titre: Re : Re : Re : Razor QT
Posté par: melodie le 02 mars 2013 à 00:37:55
?

http://tyruiop.eu/~melodie/Downloads/ISOS/Debian (http://tyruiop.eu/~melodie/Downloads/ISOS/Debian)

http://tyruiop.eu/~melodie/Downloads/ISOS/Ubuntu (http://tyruiop.eu/~melodie/Downloads/ISOS/Ubuntu)

:)

Titre: Re : Re : Razor QT
Posté par: Taco.22 le 02 mars 2013 à 00:49:05
GTK stands for "Gnome Tool Kit" and it brings colors and shape to the parts between the handle and the content of the window itself.

GTK actually stands for Gimp Tool Kit, and was originally created for the GNU Image Manipulation Program (GIMP) in 1997 by the eXperimental Computing Facility at UC Berkeley in Califonia. It is now maintained by the GNOME Foundation.
Titre: Re : Razor QT
Posté par: melodie le 02 mars 2013 à 00:51:59
Yes, Gimp. I remember now (just a mistake...)
Titre: Re : Razor QT
Posté par: Taco.22 le 02 mars 2013 à 01:03:26
It caught me out the first time I came across it - it just seemed to be so much a part of Gnome.
Titre: Re : Razor QT
Posté par: konaexpress le 07 mars 2013 à 17:42:02
Yea, I agree. I can do some art but totally suck at putting a distro together LOL! I do keep trying though........